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 Arabian Nights (1942)
IMDB rating: 6.30
Plot: Dancer Sherazade was told by the stars that she will become wife of the kalif in Bagdad. She tells Kamar, brother of kalif Haroun. He planned a coup d’etat, which failed at first, but supported by the wasir he finally succeeds. Haroun is injured and gets help from Ahmad’s actor troupe, where he is nursed by Sherazade, who doesn’t recognise him. When she hears that Kamar is looking for her she goes to him, but is sold with the complete troupe of actors to slavery. They’re able to escape, but Haroun is still in danger. To save him, Sherazade agrees to poison Kamar, but Haroun tries to establish his rulership first.
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Directors: Rawlins John
Actors: Sabu,Hall Jon,Erickson Leif,Gilbert Billy,Barrier Edgar,Lane Richard,Bey Turhan,Qualen John,Howard Shemp,Davis William ‘Wee Willie’,Gomez Thomas,Greig Robert,Action,Adventure,
What are some tricks to help a horse gain muscle and weight (rescue situation)?
Hi,
My sister and I rescued this (the breed we thing he is) A Tennessee Walker/Arabian. Or Cross with Thoroughbred. He was neglected. So he was starved and was skin and bones when we got him. We are for sure he has some Tennesee Walker in him, so as you can probably see, they are often skinny, and can be hard keeps. We just CANNOT get a good amount of weight on him! His ribs don’t show anymore, and he is strong enough and healthy enough to be ridden. But his hip bones and back bones show a little. Some of his collar bones to. I got help from my barn buddy who rescued a race horse. She said that I could pour a type of food oil on his feed and switch him to a more high protein based feed. She said the vet recommended that.
This is what we feed him now (please don’t judge my feeding ways like saying, "I can’t believe you feed him that, its the worst thing you could ever do." If you do, I will low rate it and NOT choose you as Best Answer)
- I scoop of sweet grain mix. I think it’s 11%
- 3 flakes of hay each night and fresh water in a clean bucket
- some weight supplement mixed into his grain
So I was thinking, could I work up to about a cup of vegetable oil and put that on his feed WITH the supplement. Or do you have and recommendations on helping him with muscle and fat gain. Any help is thanked!
This is not a personal criticism, however, sweet feed is not good for any horse but especially a horse recovering from starvation. How old is the horse? Age could be a strong factor in how he much he is able to recover. Relative to the amount of feed, is that per day or 2x a day? If you have been trying to help him for an extended period, are you still trying to increase the volume of his feed or have you stopped increasing? Feed should be fed according to the weight of the horse or the desired/normal weight eventually. How much is a scoop? Again, the weight of the feed and the horse have to be considered when this determination is made. It does not sound like enough feed for the horse if he is on a consistent nutrition program now. What does he do during the day? Is he turned out on pasture? in a stall? All of this makes a difference. Also, how much is he ridden? The more activity, the more feed, particularly for a recovering horse. He should have free choice hay/grass at all times. When you say a "bucket" of water, that makes me think, he is stalled which is not good. Good nutrition and slow, steadily increasing exercise, if he is able and healthy, is the only thing that will help gain weight and muscle. Hopefully, he has had a thorough vet check to make sure he has no specific health issues. Relative to weight supplements, they are usually chemical combinations of fat and other junk. I would not use them, but I am particular and have studied horse nutrition for many years. You can use some corn oil, begin with 1/4 c. and very slowly increase to 1 c. per feeding (be very careful, you can make him sick with diarrhea or other stomach distresses). This horse should be fed at least twice daily – you do not say how often you feed. Personally, I do not use oils. You must be careful with oils. So many of them have much too much Omega 6 (Omega 3 is the good one) which produces inflammation. If there is a concern with an older horse/arthritis/muscular inflammation, etc. Omega 6 is very bad. In any case, if you are going to give a fat/weight supplement, DO NOT give both the supplement and oil, only one as this would be a doubling effect that could be very harmful. Again, not a criticism, but you have to learn how to read and understand labels if you want to be informed and make good decisions for this or any other horse. It is not easy and a lot of information is deceptive and/or just left out. One of the safe choice feeds has five different ingredients that are all sugars, not safe at all. There is no regulation on feed and supplements for horses/animals so we have to try to educate ourselves as owners. Unfortunately, there are no "tricks" or "quick fixes". It just takes dedication, careful planning and record keeping, constant observation, and adjusting to the needs of the horse over time.
You said the feed you use is 11%. I presume this is the protein content? The percentage that is stated as the amount in the feed is never correct. You have to know what the nitrogen content of the feed is and there is a formula to determine the actual amount of protein in the feed. As a general rule, an 11% feed has maybe 8% protein, and it could be less if this is a concentrated sweet feed. This would not be enough protein for a horse recovering from starvation. Also, you did not say what kind of hay you are feeding. It would be good if he could have an alfalfa/grass mix – good hay – and free choice at all times with a salt block and lots of fresh water.
What you are trying to do to help this horse is great. Bless you for your efforts. However, it can be a daunting task. I hope some of this information is helpful to you. As always, my concern is always for the well being of the horse. Nothing is more important. Good luck to you.
Barefoottrimmer | Dec 24, 2009
I know this sounds odd but mix a little whiskey into his grain. It will help him with his digestion.
ocularnervosa | Dec 24, 2009
1-2 cups of vegetable oil a day will make a HUGE difference in his weight and coat health. Also, have you considered switching him over to a senior feed? I rescued a Saddlebred and even though he was pretty young I switched his feed over to senior because of the condition he was in when we got him. A horse that has been malnourished and under cared for may need equal feed treatment as an older horse.
Emily B | Dec 24, 2009
Beet pulp is great for plumping up a horse. 2 cups of BP soaked in four cups of water for at least 4 hours.
I would seriously reconsider riding this horse until spring. Let him gain weight before you start forcing him to burn calories.
He would probably also benefit from being on a round bale of high quality grass hay. This will help him keep warm. Blankets will also help so he isn’t expending the energy to stay warm.
Arburbula | Dec 24, 2009
I’m sorry, all of my TWHs are easy, easy keepers. My four year old was a bit hard to keep weight on for a few months, but now that she’s over her growth spurts, she’s right back to her old, easy to keep weight on self.
Add corn oil to his feed, corn oil is great for adding weight as well for a bunch of other benefits, like helping to prevent colic, adding shine to the coat, ect.
Plus, alfalfa if you can, flakes or cubes mixed with his regular food. Cubes, though. They’re easier to digest (so I’ve been told) than pellets, and my horses have done well on them.
Ehawlz | Dec 24, 2009
start feeding him more hay. add some corn oil and also i give my mare 606 to gain weight.
PS POUR CORN OIL ON SOME HAY(IF HE LIKES IT) AND MIX IT WITH HIS FOOD
katie | Dec 25, 2009
Read and reread and follow Barefoot’s instructions. This is what we do when we need to put weight on horses. Last year we rescued 13. Five of those came with a body score less than 2 (walking death) and more with a body score of 3. I also would consider a senior feed for any hard keeper because it is very digestable and you can wet it into a mash if there are dental issues. Putting weight on a thin, starved horse is a slow process. You will see some minor progress month by month, but it will take a 1/2 year to a full year or longer before they completely fill in. Take pictures regularly so you can see improvements and I always keep a log of what I am feeding and how much so I can monitor weight gains.
Lots of hay helps the most. A clean round bale of grass under a shelter for 24-hr availabilty will show immediate results in belly weight and will spread upwards to fill in bones on ribs and spine. This in addition to your grain and flaked hay of higher quality. I would not put out a round bale of alfalfa due to the richness if eaten all day and the tendency for alfalfa to get moldy in damp weather.
PeaBee | Dec 25, 2009
- free access to timothy hay
- morning and evening feeds of soaked beet pulp (a full measure or one and a half) mixed with half a measure of senior feed (pellets) and a cup of corn oil
* I am assuming that feed scoops are a generic size and that yours will hold about 24oz *
Anne | Dec 25, 2009
Extra soaked sugar beet and maize flakes and barley are all good for causing weight gain but it is good that you do not get too much weight on him too soon. Hay will not cause weight gain, but he does need more of it – try feeding a couple of flakes of hay in the morning as well. Also flax seed oil is good – but make sure it has been boiled and cooled and is for eating – some is for softening leather, just check. This will give him more calories and also does wonders for the skin and coat. Horses are naturally formed to be eating most of the day long, so you might want to increase the feeds but feed them more often throughout the day. When he gains sufficient weight you can always reduce them a bit.
The supplement is fine. Just do not over do it or he will get laminitis.
If he has to stop working for some reason do not give him full rations, just a quarter or an eighth of what he is getting and add more bulk, such as bran to make the amount weigh the same as it would. Or give just bran with a few carrots and apples sliced. If a horse is fed on full rations when he is not working he runs a distinct risk of suffering from azoturia which is an extremely painful, paralysing and potentially fatal disease of the muscles and kidneys. Incidentally, what the vet recommended for one horse does not mean it is good for another!
Have his poo analysed for worm presence. This will give you and indication of how much damage has been done in the past. Then follow the vets advice on worming on a regular basis, and also get his teeth floated. Sharp teeth can cause severe weight loss.
For building muscle it is a question of correct schooling – bending around your leg, trotting poles on circles or half circles, allow him to stretch down and look at what he is doing and lots of transitions and changes of direction in the school and on hacks walking him up hills in a straight line under the saddle. This will help him build muscle in his back end and along his top line. This will take weeks or months, not days. Vary his work so that he does not develop muscle more in one place rather than the other.
If after several months you have not seen an improvement in the spine, chances are he is a bit roach backed, something you cannot fix but should not affect him too badly.
zakiit | Dec 25, 2009
If you give him some bread, it will easily add some weight onto his body. We do this with our 36 year old mare every winter (because she is most frail then–we live in NY lol) And we just put it on top of her hay flakes at night when we do that feeding. And she easily gains some extra lbs. that way.
And btw I think your feeding regimen is just fine for a rescue like him. Also, exercise him lightly, just to keep some muscle on him. Don’t overwork him, but also don’t overfeed him. Keep a balanced diet for him, and he should be just dandy pretty soon. Good Luck =]
Steph | Dec 25, 2009